Speaker 1: Oh, I, I just, I'm so happy for all the work that you're doing and all these products. I can't like to nerd out with you today.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're getting ready to add 43 more new products.
Speaker 1: Like, okay. I know you can't tell me all of them, but what are they like the, what do they span
Speaker 2: They're all spinal fitness. You know, we've got the next shaper, but we've got the backtrack
Speaker 1: Who is that T add curve
Speaker 2: Well, the plexus role doesn't have it. Right Cause it crunches your spinus this lets your spiders floats your transfers process, catch on it and adjust your spine.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: Roll on it. And then we've got, actually I can run downstairs and get him, but we have 15 different net cushions there in five different diameters in three different densities with the groove.
Speaker 1: Oh, they're kind of like a foam rollers. How they have different.
Speaker 2: Well, you do this back twist and you lay over them for 20 minutes because you do the back twists in your, your, disks, your spinal disc, go from a sponge to a gel, then play on them and then without gravity, then your body relaxes and then your discs from up to foam again, foam density. So then you roll off of them and your spine reshapes. It's kinda like instead of eating candy and going to bed without flossing and brushing your teeth, you could use these from all the forward head posture at the computer to restore the curvature.
Speaker 1: Oh my God. I got to introduce you to, Dr. Bergman, do you know who he is He's a, he's a famous chiropractor and he's got a really big following and works with a lot of other, really big chiropractors in orange county LA area.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm, I'm creating a detox course for his patient practice and followers and he's, he's a miracle worker with spinal anything and he gave me some gadgets to take home, but I don't know if he has really cool things like what you're talking about. I, I, I played professional soccer and my biggest issue that I'm always chasing is God, I wonder if I could ever get out of pain, you know Cause my desk like not there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. So I got utility patents on one, two of the back products are actually there's 1, 2, 3, 4 of the back products and then design patents on three more.
Speaker 2: And it's Dr. Scherger used it with USA Olympic team, the new England Patriots and then one the coaches left and doing Patriots went to the, the, New York giants. And then of course, then they went to the Dallas Cowboys and they've kept this a secret and Dr. Sugar passed on and I had his prototype that no, none of the players had, you know, so I developed it to this easy device. And then, now like I'm working with UFC fighter, Luke Rockhold, different NFL players have our devices, the San Francisco 49ers have an order for all the next shapers. Oh yes. Girl Rams. And it's like, they're crazy about it. Cause they know some of the people that originated from the new England Patriots know about it. And I have one of the only other weight stack machines like that the new England Patriots have in their gym.
Speaker 2: And you know, and I've got the power cushion. You can look at my IgG where I've been posting different things about, you know, the spinal fitness equipment. I've got 16,000 cushions coming. I just paid for the molds for the power cushion and the neck shape. Then we got to do more force applicators, the ones for the chest and the hip. But I was traveling all over California, meeting these professional athletes and Dr. Sugar developed this, spinal evaluation for players. And that's how the new England Patriots got good players for cheap money because they know how to see who's going to be less prone to injuries, you know, and that kind of thing. And so basically I evaluate them and I have them jump. I have them bend, reach, you know, measure their hamstring tightness. Then I take them through three exercises, not even a full set of reps and every single one of them like Gilbert Melendez, he couldn't put his palms on the ground.
Speaker 2: He couldn't hardly reach. And after one set, he could, wow. His back was cracking end. He felt taller, lighter. He could reach longer in one set. He grabbed my cushion and says, see you later, any, and you know, soon as I get these, all these gyms that have these professional athletes that said there is nothing that I have tried, everything like Tyson Ross, you know, the, the major league baseball player, people don't know this, but he had to have surgery. He couldn't even pitch anymore. He had to reteach him how, how to pitch, why surgery on his shoulder. Yeah. Yeah. And, and he couldn't even throw. And so he's gone through the rehabilitation, he's done everything. This guy does everything holistic and everything, not put him through one set. And this guy is like, oh my gosh, there's nothing that goes this deep and transforms your body so quickly. Wow. Same thing with Luke. Rockhold you know, the UFC fighter. Oh my gosh. And he's, you know, looking at these guys, who's the closest to the ideal postures. This guy. I know, as soon as I get him the power cushion and all that, cause I'm going to be down there with super bowl week and we're having all these professional players and I'm going to do the evaluation and teach him it's going to be filmed the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1: So what it sounds like you're talking about here would be something that, chiropractors need to give their patients in between sessions. And I will tell you right now, the only chiropractor that I've ever worked with that gave me stuff in between is Dr. Bergman. And he gave me this little strap thing to use and like a, a couple of other things for my neck. And you know, that little pumper, I had brought this earlier, but you know, little pumper that makes your neck longer, you know And then I had another thing on my, my, door that pulls my next exercises. There's actually two chiropractors have ever worked with. They gave me things to do at home. And I always say like, that's codependent model. If you don't give people in between things to retain the results that you pay such good money for. So there what you're doing,
Speaker 2: They're just getting rid of subluxations and adjusting vertebrae. But the problem of it is, is they're not giving you the shape
Speaker 1: Right
Speaker 2: Where it's impossible for the vertebrae to go out of alignment. Right And the reason why people don't get the shape is it's like Russian roulette. I mean, we send our kids to great school and they started having them do regular sit-ups that gets rid of the low back curve. It doesn't induce the low back curve.
Speaker 1: Hello, tight hip flexors.
Speaker 2: You have to provide posterior support with the shape. Hence the group in a lot of my cushions and things. So the spine is can float and catch the transverse process. But then you have to it's like, if you're going to move a large Boulder, you got this long bar, you put the bar there and you've got to put a fulcrum underneath it so you can get leverage right
Speaker 2: Sense. So this thing that we lay over puts our spine into a leverage position. Then we strategically put weight on the body part that we want to induce curvature in. Then we do things like pelvic tilt and sit up and the neck flection and we induced curvature. And then all of a sudden, cause you can't ever change the muscle attachment points on bone and you've got tight muscles. That means your bongs are out of place. They're not in the ideal mechanical advantage. It's like everybody's running around with a bent crankshaft cure on their body. I mean, no wonder you're going to have pain and you're not gonna, you know, and the thing of it is people don't realize your body spend so much effort holding your body and gravity. And like, if you have neutral posture, when you're standing up, your hamstrings have zero effort, they're loose. And then your hamstrings are for locomotion. It's for speed. It's for fast Twitch, it's jumping launch team. But if you have tight hamstrings to begin with, that means that your weight's not centered over your hips. You might have a little bit of forward head posture, two inches, maybe two inches at the hips is typical. Then your hamstrings are holding 843 pounds of effort. So
Speaker 1: That extra, when you're out of alignment
Speaker 2: And that will never be available for you to run for fast muscle Twitch, the body reserves that. And so you don't get the athletic performance. So these products enhance athletic performance, like nothing. There is. And no one else provides simultaneous posterior support with the group to where you can do muscular coconut traction, Gus in a horizontal and vertical manner with anterior force to shape the spine. Nobody can give you the shape of the spine, but this.
Speaker 1: So can you tell me before we get into started on the other stuff, Where did you come up with that 843
Speaker 2: Dr. Scherger. Okay. So spinal biomechanics came from first Leonardo DaVinci, but rally and 1680s Pettibon and then Dr. Scherger Dr. Sugar used to be in cranes and he used to be an iron worker and how cranes and leverage works. And so the body has lever, arm systems. So he mathematically calculated just like Borelli did with a stevedore with 680 pounds on the shoulder. It translated into compression forces and sheer forces into the spinal column. There was over like 12,000 pounds or whatever, but nobody had done the study to find out joint by joint C one through 71 to 12 L one through seven to find out what the sheer forces in the compression forces are per joint. And Dr. Scherger did that and wrote all these wonderful courses that are copyrighted and he's dead. And his widow doesn't share that stuff, but it is mathematically proven that it's a 15 to one mechanical advantage.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody's in the body muscle over overload training. Let's have some great biceps triceps, but they're not looking at how the arm, because of the posture of the spine, how that gets restricted and doesn't have the full potential. Right So giving the shape of the spine then enables the lever, arms of the body to operate more efficiently. And so that's all part of his studies. And I, and I wrote rewrote PDF guides. I'm working on rewriting his information and referring to certain technical stuff. I mean, you can't rewrite math, you know And so I'm providing those examples, to people it's just like people also like the new England Patriots, they don't have their players do leg extensions or leg curls anymore because of Dr. Scherger's work on what it does to the ACL ligament.
Speaker 1: That's what happened when I was in, college, my strength and conditioning coach is like, no more of that. We're going to do dead lifts. And, what was it for the quads I think it was just dead lifts and squats. And I was like, why would we not I don't understand. And then I went back to becoming a bodybuilder bikini competitor and it was right back to neck and leg extensions, knee extensions, same thing. And then,
Speaker 2: That, what it does is cause you've got your birth by bones and then your joint. And then when you're extending them and weight is going down, that's going against the ACL and ACL only stretches so much. So then you're tearing them. Yeah, it's dangerous.
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. Cause I mean, exercise is Mike, everything that you do, everything is micro terrors. So, but, but you're talking about like ligaments and tendons, not muscles like
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's dangerous and you know, people are still doing it. And you know, there, people are out with knee, knee injuries all the time and cause what are they doing They're doing that. They're, they're, they're causing loose joints. So strong muscles don't make strong joints.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a bit of a spine school. What you're doing. It's like a system with solutions that are products and kind of a whole total body rehabilitation that if somebody bought some of these devices to retrain their spine, they can get their body back and reduce pain. And what else Like what are the other benefits
Speaker 2: Well, you know, from your brain through your spinal cord, every single nerve exits through the meninges between the vertebrae that gives this signals to every organ in your body. And if you are pinched, you know, it relates to Oregon health. So you can get the flow of electrical energy and impulses to your organs, your whole, you know, health of your body is going to improve. And you know, it's like everybody, kids especially are doing the energy drinks and the coffee it's because everybody's waking up without energy. But what if your body is spending more energy every day, holding your head up, you know, your shoulders, your low back. What if your buddy didn't have to spend that energy because you had good posture,
Speaker 1: How much energy do you think that our body actually uses If you could even estimate, or if there are scientific studies to show this, you know, based on the work that you were just mentioning, are there studies that actually show that if we're carrying around almost 800 pounds of weight from an in on, I would say improperly, stack spine, how much energy could it possibly take Like, is there a range of somebody who has like slightly curved spine to really curved spine
Speaker 2: I have not read any study that extrapolates it to how much energy consumption, you know, a person has. I know that there's a direct correlation between pain and not in losing range of motion, you know, was it was spinal irregularities. And, but you know, like if you have, if I have to go to the chiropractor, I mean, I had a bicycle accident, you know, where I slammed into a guardrail and my ribs were out and, you know, I needed to go get adjusted and I was just exhausted and tell that, you know, rectified it's because, you know, everything's tightening up your body's inflaming things to try to heal it, you know, and
Speaker 1: Cortisol.
Speaker 2: I mean, if everybody everybody's probably suffered from back pain or know somebody who does and w it's it's like debilitating, it is debilitating to me, But you know, I do laboratory hair analysis and, I can see the effect of stress on people as far as how their Dremel and fired glands doing what
Speaker 1: These other marketers
Speaker 2: And, and, you know, it's just like so many people are burnt out over 80% of people tested or like in a huge energy deficit.
Speaker 1: Right. That's what I say too, because they're in a slow pattern and it's like your adrenals and your thyroid are exhausted and you can't fix hormone deficiencies with more hormones. Like, what do we not just do, but what do we undo to give the body its best chance at adaptation or fighting off bugs The, you know, viruses, which pretty much live in parasites. So you got to go after both of them, but body's exhausted for a reason. And, and here's my last question because you know, I've done so much, a lot of rehabilitation because I had my breast implants removed, two years ago, almost three years ago. And I have a lot of obviously followers and ladies who are all about X planting and the rebuilding their body after my book, killer breasts is back there. And I, six weeks after I had my implants removed, I ruptured my Achilles tendon.
Speaker 1: So I was at a second surgery and then I had a third surgery that year. So I was in and out of physical therapy and rehab. And I learned a lot about this stuff, like about the spine and being out of place. And, I have, you guys can listen to the podcast where I talk with an abused hubbub about the vagus nerve and the importance of that, you know, communication, your nerves are everything. And if you don't, what we always say is that you need to, there's, there's two very powerful things where the body will go out of place in terms of creating illness or, hormone imbalances or infections. And that is you don't have proper amount of voltage, AKA electricity in your body nerves. Like Eileen's talking about where you have nutrient deficiencies and then everything else from there fails. So if you don't have electro electrode firing, then you lack power and well, it makes sense, right If you think about it from electrician standpoint. So I saw these pictures of like the human head weighs X amount of pounds based on that one movie. Right. And what was it the show me the money with Tom cruise anyway, I can't remember the name of the movie, but the kids like did, you know, the human head weighs, whatever you said eight pounds. And so isn't it that the more forward the head tilt, the more weight that's on the spine, it's something like a forward head tilt is like 30 or 40 pounds.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's, it's more than that. It's like over a hundred pounds. Oh
Speaker 1: God, dear Lord. And the majority people are this way, like,
Speaker 2: so why do people have pain down their shoulder and tight This is, and then what do people do They take an ibuprofen and they take a muscle relaxer. That's the emergency, that's the, the alarm going off of the body. We can't have you shift anymore. It's going to even be more damaging. So it's tightening those muscles for a reason.
Speaker 1: Eileen, I don't have time to do everything you're talking about. That's just, that's too much work. I just, you know, I'm just going to take a pill. I got to get through the day. And until you're like militated and on the side of the road, basically, you know, your body is us on the side of the road, then you can't walk. And then now you're doing the nerve there. I can't feel my arm. I'm no they're going to amputate it, but I'm kind of playing with you guys. But what would you say to people who would say that, you know, what, if they ignore it, if they continue to take ibuprofen and the painkillers, what then are the consequences of not addressing it The way that you're teaching here with these devices,
Speaker 2: All they have to do is go to spinal fitness.com and it forwards you to the page and there's free PDF downloads. There's six of them and it teaches you in there to fold a towel a certain way, where to place it, how to do a back twist and lay down over it. And you'd be shocked. Totally shocked at how much better you feel, just doing that.
Speaker 1: Awesome. Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, and so you don't have to start big,
Speaker 1: Right. Start
Speaker 2: Small. And that's the thing that, you know, these professional athletes I've been working with and everything they say, you know what I love about your products I lean every single one of them. I use it once and I see a huge difference.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love that because people don't continue because they don't see a difference or it takes too much time or it's too hard or it's too expensive. I'll tell you what's expensive. What I've done since I was 17, I've been in a chiropractor's office pretty much every week for what is that 25 years. And I still have back problems and I've done stem cell and PRP and ozone. And those things have helped, but I still have my spinal issues. And I know it's because of sitting all day in front of my computer, I've had a lot of injuries too. And a lot of these things injuries could just be chronic and sitting in front of a computer like this all day, or like iPad or phone or driving. and if it starts in your neck, the rest of your spine goes in.
Speaker 1: And so we all have that at this point, we all have spinal issues and one way or another to some degree, it's just a matter of time before it affects you. And especially if you've had breast implants, I mean, that's like five pounds pulling you forward that gets heavier and heavier to the point where it's almost 10 pounds, 15 pounds, by the time you remove them, because of all the inflammation around them, it requires retraining our spine again. And if you ignore it, I've spent over a hundred thousand dollars in chiropractic adjustments, treat treatment, spinal decompression, and done it all around the world. And, I know that the bottom line is that I could be doing better things at home to provide.